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Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) MrJeep Hi, I'm trying again to migrate to Linux and I have to make a hard decision: Mandrake 10 OFficial or Suse 9.1 ? They both look like great distro and I'm wondering which one will meet my needs: My needs: 1. Php4 (Maybe Php5), Apache + MySql for web development. I allready use Zend Studio as editor. 2. Running Photoshop with Crossover Office. 3. Msn Client (Amsn or Kopete). 4. Emule Client (like LMule). 5. A bittorrent client. 6. A p2p client (pref Kazaa like). 7. Office Suite (allready included in both but I just wanted to mention). 8. Counter-Strike 1.6 with wineX. 9. Read / Write on NTFS partitions. 10. Fonts. I need at least Verdana and Tahoma. 11. Being Fast. I remember using Redhat 9 and, when I clicked on the K button, My hard disk started to make some noise (usual noise) and the K menu appeared 2 seconds after. 12. Being able to connect to windows share and a windows shared printer Well, I think this is it. By the way, I dont want to start a flame war here. This is not Mdk VS Suse, it's MDK or Suse. I know a lot of linux discussion end up in a stupid flame war. Oh and I'd like to have intelligent comments. Not "You want to play game, then buy a X-Box" (BTW that was the lamest comment I've ever heard). Thanks Mr.JEep 04-22-2004 05:01:38

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) Dick Puller Both distros could be made to do what you require but I very much doubt that either will do it straight out of the box. As always a certain amount of tweaking and torture will be involved(or is it just me). I am using mandrake 10 at the moment but I must say I dont find it especially fast, in fact loading in kde/gnome takes quite a while (athlonxp2800).Last time I used Suse was 8.1 pro and it always felt polished, I read on the web that hasn't changed but I haven't used 9.1 personally. My personal feeling is that if you need to use windows software you should dual boot, it's much easier and cheaper too if you already have a windows disk lying about. Hope my ramblings help:) 04-28-2004 14:46:59

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) psilo @MrJeep Your wish list can be equally easy /hard to fulfill with both distro's My needs: 1. Php4 (Maybe Php5), Apache + MySql for web development. I allready use Zend Studio as editor. This is the easiest to fulfill, unless You are not prepared to look at the hundred different editors available on linux. 2. Running Photoshop with Crossover Office. You need to buy cxoffice seperately 3. Msn Client (Amsn or Kopete). Are included in both distros 4. Emule Client (like LMule). No problem 5. A bittorrent client. No problem 6. A p2p client (pref Kazaa like). You might try mldonkey-server. It can handle the edonkey/emule network in parallel with the gnutella, fasttrack, overnet, bittorrent and direct connect networks. 7. Office Suite (allready included in both but I just wanted to mention). - 8. Counter-Strike 1.6 with wineX. You need to subscribe to WineX seperately, or you can decide to dual boot for games. 9. Read / Write on NTFS partitions. Look for Captive-ntfs. There are no SuSE and no Mandrake 10 packages available, only debian, Redhat and Mandrake 9.1. 10. Fonts. I need at least Verdana and Tahoma. Those can be copied from your windows partition or obtained from corefonts.sf.net. I know both Mdk and Suse have a GUI tool for this. 11. Being Fast. I remember using Redhat 9 and, when I clicked on the K button, My hard disk started to make some noise (usual noise) and the K menu appeared 2 seconds after. If you want a fast distro don't use Mandrake or SUSe, but more of a geek distro. You can tweak both to start faster. Linux loves memory, so if you only have 128MB add a DIMM, every bit of RAM is used to the fullest. 12. Being able to connect to windows share and a windows shared printer Use SAMBA for the windows shares. To be able to use a windows printer, you need to go through configuration hell no matter which distro you choose, the other way around is much easier. A way to ease the pain is installing a loopback PostScript printer on the windows host, google for this. A starting point about printer shares: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/index.html The list of requirements you gave don't favour one distro over the other. That is mainly because you ask a lot of stuff originating from the windows-world. If you want to make a choice test both the SUSe live eval CD and Mandrake Move. That will show you the differences from a linux perspective wqithout the need to install anything. 04-29-2004 03:37:46

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) markp1950 I would say Mandrake 10... Not because it's better... But you can get it free, and hey if you don't like it, you have lost nothing... MarkP 05-10-2024 17:36:24

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) johnt MrJeep, I am currently running Mandrake 10 on my dual boot machine. I did the Suse 9.1 FTP install, but wiped it out after a day or so. Suse looks like a nice distro, but it did not seem to me to have the flexibility and usiblity that Mandrake offers. It looks like a great distro for an office style locked down deployment, but that is not what I am after. My machine is currently set up to do most of what you require. As other people have stated here, most of what you need is included both distros and sould be ready to go out of the box. I use an older desktop running Mandrake and Samba as a print server on my home network, so getting printers to work is pretty straight forward. (though surprisingly it was easier to connect to the server under Mandrake 9.2 than it was under 10) PHP4, Apache, MySQL, Bitorrent, OpenOffice, Mozzila, BlueFish all work well under KDE and keep out of each others way. My machine is a 2.4 Ghz P4 with 500 Meg of ram, so I really can't comment on speed issues. I run KDE for a desktop manager and just use as many desktops as I need to get all the apps up and running that I need. Some apps (such as Mozzila or OpenOffice seem to take longer to load than an equivilent Windows program, but since I just fire them up once and switch desktops as needed, this is not a major penalty. But games (epecially games)and some Windows apps keep me with a dual boot machine. For me it's simpler (and cheaper) than setting up WinForLin, and Crossover Office(Wine) has not reached the stage that I covers all the apps I need. Since my machine came with Windows anyway, I just have 2 hard drives and dual boot. I can see my NTFS drive and partitons, and read from the drive, but I can't write to it. Since I have the server, I use it as the go between when I need to swap files. So I do my development work on Linux and run my personal life on Windows. Hope this helps and gives you some ideas. 05-11-2024 07:33:01

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) soccy SuSE 9.1 ftp installation WILL be available sometime in June, how could you "installed and wiped out" couple of days ago? As for the comparison between Mandrake and SuSE, you can find enough informtion just by search google. My personal exaprience is that SuSE is much better than Mandrake with similar configuration (suse 9.1 vs. mdk 10, suse 9.0 vs. mdk 9.2, etc.). Using suse with apt tools, you are guarenteed a linux system with the most recent components and countless user-contributed software. How does that sound? 05-13-2004 14:04:42

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) tired Soccy, I noticed the johnt post as well. SUSE 9.1 will not be officially available through FTP until on or after June 4th. No comparison can be made on something that only exists in a posters mind. Sounds more to me like johnt is mostly "full of it". Wait for a month or so and some real Linux posters will have a review of the comparable assets of Mandrake 10 and SUSE 9.1. 05-13-2004 16:01:41

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) walterbyrd I saw SuSE 9.1 on ebay for $0.99 + $4.00 s/h - in the USA. Even with a high speed connection, I'd rather pay the $5 than bother with downloading and burning. On the other hand, sometimes it pays not to be over anxious. Give it a few weeks for them to shake some of the bugs out. 05-13-2004 17:29:25

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) Mikas Suse 9.1 comes with a 2.6 kernel, which should make things a fair bit quicker and more responsive. 05-17-2004 02:21:47

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) Lamorak Mandrake 10 also comes with the 2.6 kernel. At the moment I have Mandrake 10 installed on a 400MHz machine, and the KDE under Mandrake runs faster than the KDE did in Red Hat 7.2. Sometime I'll get SuSE 9.1 through the mail, and when I do I'll compare it with Mandrake 10. 05-17-2004 12:22:16

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) quantum Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but I noticed you repeatedly using the term "dual-boot". What exactly do you mean by that? I'm using Win2k and Mandrake on one partitioned HD and boot either one or the other. What on eart is "dual-booting"? Please enlighten me. 05-21-2004 06:27:25

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) tired quantum, You are using dual-boot, dual=2, 2 operating systems, choice of either one, so you are using dual boot. 05-21-2004 10:27:22

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) quantum Ahhh, now I'm relieved. I was beginning to think there was some strange way to boot two OS at the same time. 05-22-2004 15:10:50

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) kevin Profile I was beginning to think there was some strange way to boot two OS at the same time. There is. It's called an emulator. http://bochs.sourceforge.net/ -kev 05-22-2004 18:58:48

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) zipper Also http://www.netraverse.com but the dual boot you are referring to is correct and the most commom used term. 05-22-2004 21:23:17

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) quantum Well, yeah, I knew about the emulators, but as far as I see, they all have their problems and most of the better ones cost a lot of money. 05-29-2004 16:17:41

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) David First time I have posted but I thought I would provide my opinion. I am running Suse 9.1 personal networked with a Win98 machine. I have samba running for file/print sharing. I have used both Mandrake and Suse and prefer Suse for my needs which are similar to your needs minus one or two things. You could try MandrakeMove and SuseLive which will both run from your CDROM. Play around with them to get an idea of each. You may beable to pick these up on ebay for cheap so you don't have to download a gigantic iso. As for speed...I am running Suse 9.1 on an AMD Athlon 800mhz with 512 RAM and it runs faster than WinXP on a 1.3ghz with 256 RAM. So, my opinion is Suse 9.1 but I think they are both good and Mandrake is of course cheaper. 06-01-2025 22:52:57

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) Vince Suse 9.1 is much faster and easy to use. I have installed and used Mandrake 10 and liked a few things about them, but overall, if you want to run a strong and true linux kernel and run MS applications, purchase Suse Wine for $39.95. I am using Suse 9.1 Professional as my main server, developement workstation. I also have Suse 9.1 personal which is practically like windows xp home. I loaded Suse Wine on it and it running smoothly. If your a newbie and want to get the most of linux that is supported by tech spt. Suse is owned by Novell and is increasing their Partnership (Vendors) by the thousands. I have tried Ark, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, Debian, Red Hat flavors and I prefer Suse. If you purchase Suse Pro 9.1 You get an Admin Guide and a User guide. They are pretty well loaded for configurations with diagrams. Hope this helps. Best of Luck, 06-03-2025 14:50:41

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) tl47 Concerning emulators, check out QEMU. http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ It is, well, only about 270 times faster than BOCHS. BOCHS has its own uses for other stuff/platforms, of course. 06-13-2004 03:50:20

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) dDawg Profile | Email And now, well over a month after the last active post to this thread, comes the new guy. Obviously, a few things have changed since this thread was started. First, Novell has released a downloadable iso of Sue-9.1 for free. The Novell website also offers a Linux evaluation kit, which will get you 3 free DVD's worth of Suse and Novell software to try, including a full version Suse-9.1 pro DVD. Having used both of these distros fairly extensively, I'd have to recommend... neither! Of the 2, Suse probably stands the better chance of making your WineX, now renamed cedega, gaming dreams a reality, via their Suse wine rack. Of course, you'll pay as much for that as you would for a boxed version of the distro, but hey, priorities are priorities, right? Since cedega/WineX is available for any format you might choose, I'd take a look at a freebie called Mepis.(www.mepis.org) The developer does a nice job with all the requirements you have except for gaming, which you can handle yourself with cedega. The price is definitely better than either a Suse or Mandrake boxed set, with just as many great features. 07-14-2004 12:36:56

RE:Mandrake 10 Official or Suse 9.1 (modified 0 times) someone fedora core 3 will do all that for free easier i found out through experience 01-21-2005 14:21:25

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